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Hank
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Hi everybody...
I have the 1.1 US official version with the unoffocial 1.2 and 1.3.2 patches from here applied.
I had no particular problem all along the adventure but arrived at the Master's vault, when I want to go down to the 3rd level, the game crashes. I can't read the error message as everything's stand in a black screen.
I searched the forum before posting that and I found nothing about crash at this moment so I presume that no one experienced this yet... 
If anyone has a clue for me to manage to reach this 3rd level, I'm near the end of the game so you can imagine that it's pretty frustrating to be stuck there... lmao, that would be highly great to help me...
Just tell me if more details are needed about my system or about what i've done in the game...
Thanx a lot in advance...
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Отправлено: 19:59 - 27 Авг., 2007 | EDITED: Hank - 18:02 - 13 Sep., 2007
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Wasteland Ghost
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Post here exact version and release date from readme.txt, also tell where you've got this version.
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Отправлено: 11:55 - 28 Авг., 2007
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Hank
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Frankly, I don't know what are the specificities of this version I have, I just know that it has been sent to me by a contact from usa and was supposed to work properly but, indeed, it doesn't, at all...
So I erase the content of my previous post. I made a mistake posting here because my crashing problem has nothing to do with the TeamX patch, so, please, totally forget about my request.
This topic should also be erased, I can't do it myself, if I could, I would have done so...
I apologise to not have done more verifications before involving your work into my issue.
With my regards...
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Отправлено: 0:04 - 1 Сент., 2007 | EDITED: Hank - 0:15 - 1 Sep., 2007
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Wasteland Ghost
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There is no need to apologize. Although it is not our bug, we can help you fix it. The game version, distributed by gamesold.ru, has the same bug: crash on the Cathedral 3rd level. It is caused by corrupted supermutant animation. I believe, Alchemist can help you here.
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Отправлено: 12:14 - 1 Сент., 2007
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Hank
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Allright, so here are pastes from the readme.txt and patch.txt headlines:
FALLOUT: A Post-Nuclear Role-Playing Game
Readme File - 29 September 1997
Version 1.0
FALLOUT: A Post-Nuclear Role-Playing Game
Readme File - 31 October 1997
Version 1.0 -> Version 1.1 Patch
There are no more specification on either of the 2 txt files.
It is supposed to be an uncensored US version. I also found that it was gotten thru torrent.
Since my first post, I also tried different ways to get to the Master, to check if I could bypass the bug... and I couldn't... Talking to Morpheus, beating the Military Base first or not, coming with or without NPCs... nothing of that works... Thought, it is obvious if its a problem with a corrupt supermutant animation...
About the topic:
I edit again my first post to keep the topic clear, I kept a back up so I can get it back to exactly what it was...
In fact, I thought that you'd prefer to keep your forum clean of TeamX patch unrelated stuff... So, i've been a bit quick on doing so, lol...
It's up to you to wipe from this topic what you think is inappropriate to stay on your forum.
Thanx a mega bunch again...
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Отправлено: 17:45 - 13 Сент., 2007 | EDITED: Hank - 17:59 - 13 Sep., 2007
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Wasteland Ghost
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Can you post in here MD5 sum for your master.dat, critter.dat and falloutw.exe? Please, make "clear" installation before doing this (you have v.1.0, I presume?).
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Отправлено: 11:16 - 19 Сент., 2007
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freddie
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I hate to hijack somebody else's thread, but I'm having exactly the same problem. If you could also help me out I'd really appreciate it! I'm running version 1.1 on a clean install. I think the torrent (sorry, my disc got lost many years ago now!) said the version I had was the uncensored american version, but I have now way of verifying this. In response to your last post my MD5 hashes are
a5d102e85e788426cf01862e9035d097 FALLOUTW.EXE
0f173d86d623bb2f60dc741a4ee8b7bb MASTER.DAT
4f6b9784411b92bebb622c81ed720dae CRITTER.DAT
Just in case not all of the README and PATCH files were the same, mine are the same as Hank's, as far as he's posted. I really hope you can help. Not being able to finish of the Master is driving me nuts! Thanks a lot.
Freddie
P.S. Anyone know why it's falloutw.exe and not just fallout.exe?
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Отправлено: 17:35 - 22 Сент., 2007
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Wasteland Ghost
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Please, wait until Alchemist will return and check this out.
Цитата:
Anyone know why it's falloutw.exe and not just fallout.exe?
There are two F1 engine versions: for WIN and for DOS.
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Отправлено: 10:04 - 27 Сент., 2007
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Alchemist
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I'm back.
2freddie:
Цитата:
0f173d86d623bb2f60dc741a4ee8b7bb MASTER.DAT
4f6b9784411b92bebb622c81ed720dae CRITTER.DAT
Yes. That's your case indeed. Download the fix and follow included application instructions. Make us know if you've succeded/failed.
2Hank:
You have not provided enough information on your release. Try that fix as well and report the results.
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Отправлено: 20:03 - 3 Окт., 2007
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freddie
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Thanks a lot for your help. I've applied the fix and can now get to the third level of the cathederal. However, fighting down there crashes pretty regularly, and I can't get past the point I'm at now, as it crashes whatever I do. The intro movies are now really stuttery too, although this might be to do with wine (I'm running it under linux). Any ideas?
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Отправлено: 20:05 - 9 Окт., 2007
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Alchemist
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Well, possible causes are:
1. Incompatibility between the game and the emulated environment. Never tried Fallout under Wine so I can't help here. May be Wasteland Ghost could suggest something.
2. Incompletely applied fix. Post MD5s for your patches master.dat, critter.dat and falloutw.exe. I'll compare them with hashes of healthy files.
3. You are using a troublesome mod along with the game. Fallout Update 1.2.5 is known source of exotic crashes.
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/// What'ya be sain'? Vault 100+? We need nothing o'that!
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Отправлено: 19:16 - 10 Окт., 2007
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freddie
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Hi Alchemist, thanks for getting back to me. Here are the md5 hashes:
fb6a92a206191adf15440b2f9cbf014c MASTER.DAT
b92ca2ad7c9afc404468a9287983ad90 CRITTER.DAT
c32ae6f10573f654380702f40b4bf8db Falloutw.exe
I'm not using any mods, just the official 1.1 patch and TeamX's 1.2 and 1.3.2 patches (along with the fix you've given me). Just to check, after I applied your fix to my clean files (which are v1.1) I then RE-applied patch 1.1 and then added 1.2 and 1.3.2 as usual.
Wine was working perfectly with fallout 1.3.2 before, but I couldn't tell you whether it is reacting badly with this fix or not. That's way beyond my understanding. Thanks again.
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Отправлено: 22:37 - 10 Окт., 2007
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Alchemist
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DAT files are healthy. So fix has been applied successfully. But MD5 of your falloutw.exe does not match any engine version known to me. Where does this file comes from? And also what release date and version are mentioned in the readme file on the CD-ROM?
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Отправлено: 4:57 - 11 Окт., 2007 | ИСПРАВЛЕНО: Alchemist - 13:20 - 11 Окт., 2007
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Wasteland Ghost
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Цитата:
1. Incompatibility between the game and the emulated environment. Never tried Fallout under Wine so I can't help here. May be Wasteland Ghost could suggest something.
I've experienced video problems, when I was using some old wine version. I suggest, you download and install latest version. I'm using free version of Ethersoft Wine and FO1&2 are working perfectly on my ALT Linux Compact 3.0. As I know, Ethersoft has rpms for almost all popular linux versions on their ftp. Also try different compatibility and/or video settings in the wine control panel, this may help.
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Отправлено: 10:34 - 11 Окт., 2007
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freddie
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"FALLOUT: A Post-Nuclear Role-Playing Game
Readme File - 29 September 1997
Version 1.0"
Although, it installed v1.1. The instructions for the fix said I needed to reinstall the 1.1 patch so I did that aster applying the fix to the dat files. Then I used teamX's 1.2 and 1.3.2 patches. I kept my v1.0 and v1.1 exe's; here are their md5s
a5d102e85e788426cf01862e9035d097 FALLOUTW_1.0.EXE
a5d102e85e788426cf01862e9035d097 FALLOUTW_1.1.EXE
A bit weird that they're the same? As for wine I'm running 0.9.44. It ran the unfixed fallout perfectly without any tinkering... I've just tried using the 1.1 exe and it crashed in exactly the same way the 1.3.2 version did. I downloaded wine 0.9.46 (the latest release I could get an rpm for) and the choppyness has gone but now the game crashes on the main menu. This looks like it's an issue with wine rather than fallout then... Thanks a load for your help, I'll let you know if I have any progress.
EDIT: the md5 of my falloutw.exe that you didn't recognise is from the 1.2 patch, I've checked with the FALLOUTW.EXE from a fresh 1.2 patch.
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Отправлено: 14:40 - 13 Окт., 2007 | EDITED: freddie - 14:42 - 13 Oct., 2007
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Alchemist
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Цитата:
A bit weird that they're the same?
Nothing weird is here. You have US release v1.1. Not v1.0. Check the 'data' folder on your CD-ROM and you'll find some scripts and msg-files along with acms. While the release v1.0 has music only there.
Цитата:
the md5 of my falloutw.exe that you didn't recognise is from the 1.2 patch
Clumsy me. I've been comparing your MD5 sums with the sum for the wrong 1.2 engine.  Yes, your falloutw.exe is perfectly fine.
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Отправлено: 0:02 - 14 Окт., 2007 | ИСПРАВЛЕНО: Alchemist - 0:03 - 14 Окт., 2007
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Hank
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Sorry guys for my silence... I haven't played since my last post, i was damn too busy irl...
wow, i didn't think this could interest someone else...
Anyway, i'm back on my comp for few days and here i follow your last instructions, my md5 checks from a "clean" installation, no mods, no patches, nothing, just the "uncensored 1.1 US version":
A5D102E85E788426CF01862E9035D097 ---> FALLOUTW.EXE
0F173D86D623BB2F60DC741A4EE8B7BB ---> MASTER.DAT
4F6B9784411B92BEBB622C81ED720DAE ---> CRITTER.DAT
I've read what you've done with Freddie and it seems that we have exactly the same issue with the same MD5 sums.
I've dled your fix, i'll try it and post my results asap.
Thanx again for your assistance... =)
[edit]
All right, i'm done, i've followed instructions from your "fix4oldgames" then re applied 1.2, then 1.3.2 and that worked perfectly... I reached the 3rd floor of the Master's vault... I haven't tried to finish the game yet, but i will and report here.
So it seems that the fix works well on WinXP... 
maybe i'm insisting too much but i'm very gratefull you look further into my issue and i really like to thank you, Alchemist and Wasteland Ghost, a maxi mega bunch... 
By the way, Thank Freddie too to have hijacked this post, you did great to do so... 
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Отправлено: 17:26 - 17 Окт., 2007 | EDITED: Hank - 19:19 - 17 Oct., 2007
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Moloch
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I've got that problem Freddie mentioned... I've applied that fix and yet game continues to crash on that level sometimes. My MD5s are exactly the same as Freddie's. Maybe there's a better fix for such case or something?
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Отправлено: 4:44 - 6 Ноября, 2007
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Alchemist
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What are MD5 sums of your master.dat, critter.dat and falloutw.exe AFTER the fix application? What patches/mods are you using? What are exact date and version of the release accordinly to your readme? How often do thouse 'sometimes' happen and how it look like?
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Отправлено: 19:52 - 6 Ноября, 2007 | ИСПРАВЛЕНО: Alchemist - 14:54 - 8 Ноября, 2007
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Moloch
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I've already finished Fallout today... It seems this bug can be avoided if you can kill all enemies very fast or leave and re-enter location right before game crashes. At least that worked in my case. But it's not only the Cathedral that crashes, Military base has that stuff too...
My MD5 sums:
MASTER.DAT fb6a92a206191adf15440b2f9cbf014c
CRITTER.DAT b92ca2ad7c9afc404468a9287983ad90
FALLOUTW.EXE a5d102e85e788426cf01862e9035d097
So, it's fixed 1.1 US version.
But I've played different versions (for example, pirate russian version with the bug at the end of the Military Base, I've heard it's a famous one) with the same results.
'Sometimes' is... 'sometimes'. For example I fight against mutant guards, kill one, two, three... and sunddenly right after my shot the screen turns black. I've tried to save game in different slots on different turns, but didn't work. When I load the game and try to shoot everythings ends the same way (even if the game was saved at the previous turn). YET, if move character somewhere or use the lift, nothing happens.
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Отправлено: 1:59 - 7 Ноября, 2007
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Alchemist
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Sums do match. Fix has been applied correctly. Your installation of the game is as valid as it could be now.
When the screen becomes black is the game responsive if you move the mouse? Is it possible to 'erase' blackness with a cursor? There is well known visual bug which affects every version of the Fallout when you run it on a modern system.
If it is a definite crash it could be also caused by the broken savedgame. Send your save to Alchemistslab aT Nm dOT Ru or upload it somewhere. I'll check.
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Отправлено: 14:38 - 8 Ноября, 2007 | ИСПРАВЛЕНО: Alchemist - 19:06 - 8 Ноября, 2007
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Moloch
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I know that black screen bug you've mentioned and I have that one too, but it can be removed simply. The one I was talking about is lethal, only ctrl+alt+del helps. By the way there should be some window named 'application error', but it's just invisible.
It's DEFINELTLY not about save game, 'cause as I've mentioned before, I've played different versions with different characters and all that.
BTW, can we discuss this somewhere else? I can speak russian as well. 
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Отправлено: 17:00 - 9 Ноября, 2007
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Alchemist
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Well, in that case we should move to Тех. поддержка. :P
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Отправлено: 17:14 - 9 Ноября, 2007
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Moloch
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Should I create a new topic there?
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Отправлено: 22:32 - 9 Ноября, 2007
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Wasteland Ghost
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Yes.
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Отправлено: 9:56 - 10 Ноября, 2007
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